GenWeb List traffic, June to August 1997 Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IRPS BBS (2400014) by irpsbbs.ucsd.edu (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.2) id AA2400014.2050769; Sun, 01 Jun 1997 22:32:19 PDT Message-ID: <1997Jun01.222921.2050769@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: ghoffman@ucsd.edu (Gary Hoffman) Organization: IR/PS UC San Diego, La Jolla CA 92093-0519 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 22:29:21 PDT Subject: Involuntary Subscriptions to GENWEB To GenWebbers: Several people have complained that they have found themselves subscribed to this mailing list against their will. While this seems unlikely, it is entirely possible if someone has subscribed another mailing list to this list, causing that other list to act as a remailer. In that case, attempts to unsub this list will fail because subscribers of that other list are not subscribed to the GenWeb list. No remailers to this list are authorized without my permission and I have not given permission. If you believe you might be getting a message from the GenWeb mailing list by way of some other mailing list, please send me a recent GenWeb message, complete with all the header information. This will help us find the system that is forwarding the messages. In most cases, however, people have subscribed to this list after accessing one of those genealogy index sites whose sponsor has programmed a "mailto:" link to the GenWeb's host listserver. In any case, upon being subscribed, everyone should get a message from the listserver confirming the subscription and giving directions for unsubscribing. This message will also confirm the name a user has been subscribed under. Thanks for your patience while we continue to monitor this situation. Gary *************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* *************************************************************************** Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IRPS BBS (2400014) by irpsbbs.ucsd.edu (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.2) id AA2400014.2050767; Sun, 01 Jun 1997 22:32:13 PDT Message-ID: <1997Jun01.220848.2050767@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: ghoffman@ucsd.edu (Gary Hoffman) Organization: IR/PS UC San Diego, La Jolla CA 92093-0519 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 22:08:48 PDT Subject: You are tuned to GENWEB--Do not reply Anyone receiving this message is subscribed to the e-mail mailing list GENWEB. The purpose of this list is to facilitate the development of a linked, worldwide distributed genealogy database. This is NOT a good place to post queries about individual research projects. If this topic is not of interest to you ... here is how to unsubscribe: Send an e-mail message to listserv@ucsd.edu In the body of the message put the words: UNSUB GENWEB That's all! Do not reply to this message! Do not send these commands to genweb@ucsd.edu! Do not send me a message about unsubscribing! Just do it as outlined above. If you still want to read about the GenWeb, please point your WWW browser to the URL http://www.genweb.org/genweblist/ All current and archived messages are there for your perusal without cluttering your mailbox. Thanks, Gary *************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* *************************************************************************** Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IRPS BBS (2400014) by irpsbbs.ucsd.edu (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.2) id AA2400014.2050820; Sun, 01 Jun 1997 23:01:31 PDT Message-ID: <1997Jun01.225755.2050820@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: ghoffman@ucsd.edu (Gary Hoffman) Organization: IR/PS UC San Diego, La Jolla CA 92093-0519 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 22:57:55 PDT Subject: GenWeb and Java To GenWebbers: It looks like an advanced commercial version of GenWeb is about to hit the streets. BroderBund's BannerBlue division, the makers of Family Tree Maker, plans to ship FTM version 4.0 on June 10. According to the FTM web site , the new publishing features of FTM include GenWeb-like features. InterneTree(TM) uses state-of-the-art Java(TM) technology to display dynamic views of your family tree on your home page at Family Tree Maker Online. You, your relatives, and other Internet users can see your entire tree at once. Just select any person in your tree to see all their ancestors and descendants. Select another person, and the tree instantly changes the display to this person's branches. Dick Eastman had more information in last week's Genealogy Newsletter when he quoted from BroderBund's news release (apparently not yet available on their own Web site). Online Sharing --InterneTree (TM) uses state-of-the-art Java(TM) technology to display your family tree graphically on your home page at Family Tree Maker Online. Visitors to your home page can click any person in the tree and watch as the InterneTree instantly updates the screen to show both ancestors and descendants of that individual. Online Research --Internet FamilyFinder (TM) radically reduces the time it takes to find valuable genealogy information on the Internet. This cutting-edge search engine is fine-tuned especially for genealogy name searches. It indexes over 15 thousand sites worldwide, encompasses approximately 20 million names, and is growing quickly. --Internet FamilyFinder Agents (TM) are sophisticated software programs that automatically roam the Internet looking for genealogy information. Instead of using the Internet FamilyFinder yourself and doing name searches one by one, you can charter a free FamilyFinder Agent to do the work for you. Some of this sounds like what we've been talking about on this mailing list for three years now. If anyone has more information about this project, please post it to the GenWeb mailing list. Meanwhile, I am trying to get more information from the BroderBund programming team. Stay tuned. Cheers, Gary *************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* *************************************************************************** Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:33:00 -0800 Received: from galileo.apo.nmsu.edu (galileo.apo.nmsu.edu [192.41.211.40]) by mailbox2.ucsd.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA10089 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jb@localhost) by galileo.apo.nmsu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA14910; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:01:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:01:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Jon Brinkmann Message-Id: <199706021501.JAA14910@galileo.apo.nmsu.edu> To: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: Involuntary Subscriptions Cc: jb@galileo.apo.nmsu.edu Dear Genwebbers, I sympathize with those who were involuntarily subscribed to this list. Please heed Gary's instructions for removing yourself from the list. I'd like to bring another "involuntary subscription" plot to the attention of those who have voluntarily subscribed to this list. I received the following last week: >Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 22:04:17 +0930 (CST) >From: E Powell >To: Titanic fans >Subject: RMS Titanic > >Hello There, > > Your name has been passed on to us as having an interest in the RMS Titanic. > > This is just a courtesy letter to verify this information, and if it > is incorrect please reply to this message with the words 'Please > Remove' in the subject line and we will remove your details from our > mailing list. > > The second reason for this letter is to let you know of a great new > website about the Titanic which offers a wealth of information > including downloads. > >The site address is - http://www.sstitanic.com > >Thankyou for your time. > >Evan Powell I have NO interest in the Titanic (although I did enjoy the National Geographic specials on Bob Ballard's pioneering investigations of several wrecks, including the Titanic). I send them a "please remove" letter and have heard nothing further from them. FYI, rootsweb sponsors the ROOTS-L mailing list and the USGenWeb archive, both of which I and I'm sure others on this list, are interested in. See http://www.rootsweb.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/usfiles.htm Jon --- Dr. Jon Brinkmann Apache Point Observatory Instrument Scientist 2001 Apache Point Road Internet: brinkmann@nmsu.edu P.O. Box 59 URL: http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/brinkmann/ Sunspot, NM 88349-0059 Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:01:36 -0800 Received: from irpsbbs.ucsd.edu (irpsbbs.ucsd.edu [132.239.218.47]) by popmail.UCSD.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA10585 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IRPS BBS (2400014) by irpsbbs.ucsd.edu (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.2) id AA2400014.2051273; Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:35:44 PDT Message-ID: <1997Jun02.093058.2051273@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: ghoffman@ucsd.edu (Gary Hoffman) Organization: IR/PS UC San Diego, La Jolla CA 92093-0519 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:30:58 PDT Subject: Titanic Messages To GenWebbers: I wrote about people involuntarily subscribed to this mailing list by virtue of their being on another mailing list that has become a remailer for this list. Jon Brinkmann wrote about Titanic messages being sent through various genealogy mailing lists. The Titanic message is an example of very efficient spamming; they send their intrusive message to a mailing list rather than to a group of individuals and they don't even care where it goes. Even if you follow the instructions to remove your address from their records, it won't work because their record contains not your address but the mailing list address. I think we will see more and more of this type of junk e-mail. Mailing list managers have several options to prevent this kind of attack, including making the list moderated, requiring a moderator to approve a message before it's posted, or restricting send access to properly subscribed addresses. Both of these tactics are inconvenient to both managers and users. However, if the pain level rises, we will consider these steps. Further, as a list grows in numbers (genweb is now over 800 names), the noise level (administrative messages, complaints, etc.) increases relative to the signal level (message content on the main topic). Our list has had a negative signal-to-noise ratio lately, including this noise message. I plead for tolerance and understanding to help us maintain this useful channel; tolerance of others' mistakes and understanding of what's going on in the world of electronic mail. Also, we welcome on-topic postings from every subscriber, including the many, the silent. Cheers, Gary *************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* *************************************************************************** Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (beaur@localhost) by Stratus.CAM.ORG (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA07077 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:31:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Stratus.CAM.ORG: beaur owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:31:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Denis Beauregard To: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: Re: Titanic Messages In-Reply-To: <1997Jun02.093058.2051273@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Gary Hoffman wrote: > I think we will see more and more of this type of junk e-mail. Mailing list > managers have several options to prevent this kind of attack, including > making the list moderated, requiring a moderator to approve a message > before it's posted, or restricting send access to properly subscribed > addresses. Both of these tactics are inconvenient to both managers and > users. However, if the pain level rises, we will consider these steps. You forget the more efficient method (used by lists at eworld.com and maybe those at rootsweb.com): only subscribe after confirmation by the subscriber. But accepting posts only from subscribers would probably be a good idea as we will be more invaded by spammers. For the record, many genealogy lists were recently closed because of spamming. The series at indiana.edu (maiser) for example. Denis ### Denis Beauregard, genealogiste amateur, Internet: beaur@cam.org ### Page web de genealogie: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/index.html ### Genealogy Web page: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/welcome.html ### Sujets: Quebec, France, Acadie, experts francophones, etc. Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:05:32 -0800 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by mailbox1.ucsd.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA07127 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 01:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Karen.EARTHLINK.NET (1Cust55.Max13.New-Orleans.LA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.206.55]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA00656; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 01:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970603031958.007a8100@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: tazzycat@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 03:19:58 -0500 To: grave-l@lists.best.com From: Karen Subject: Important Genealogy News! Cc: genweb@ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings to all, A brand new genealogy organization has been formed at Rootsweb! This organization is called the International Internet Genealogical Society or IIGS and membership is open to all who are interested in genealogy worldwide. We hope to link together genealogists and genealogy resources all over the world through this organization. Details about the organization and its mission may be viewed on our web page at....... http://www.rootsweb.com/~iigs We are a totally volunteer organization and would like to extend an invitation to any and all interested "rooters" to come and join us at IIGS!!! You may sign up for the IIGS Mailing List direct from our web page. We have several teams of volunteers working together to make this organization a success worldwide and we need many more of you to help. There are places for all types of talent that are needed ASAP. If you would like to volunteer to help out, whether it is just a little or a lot, or whether you have tons of experience or not, we really want to hear from you!! Some positions which need to be filled as soon as possible are as follows: teachers (for online genealogy classes), translators (all languages), Unix sys administrators, and Global Village Representatives to represent their respective countries throughout the world. There are several teams at IIGS and you may volunteer for any of them. A listing of these teams can be viewed on our web page. Volunteers may send an e-mail with their name, e-mail address, any area(s) for which they would like to volunteer, and any special skills or talents they may possess (although not required), to the following address. tazzycat@earthlink.net Please put Volunteer as the subject of your e-mail to help speed things along! Hope to see you there!!!! Thank you for your time! Karen Costelli IIGS Talent Scout tazzycat@earthlink.net Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: TFarris268@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA20497 for genweb@ucsd.edu; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970605192407_-1965235423@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: Free Genealogy Newsletter "GENEALOGY TODAY" JUNE 1997 NEWSLETTER ********************************************************* Welcome to "Genealogy Today" a monthly newsletter published by the award winning genealogy site Enoch.com (http://www.enoch.com/genealogy). This sample newsletter is being sent to you free and if you would like to continue to receive this FREE monthly genealogy newsletter just send email message to tfarris268@aol.com put SUBSCRIBE in subject and in the message put your name, address and complete email address. ******************************************************* GETTING HELP FROM PUBLIC OFFICIALS: Very often you have the opportunity to write a letter to public officials to request a birth, marriage or death record, military records, land or court record or to librarian of a public library or genealogy society library. In order to ensure your success, here are some tips: Typing is preferred for legibility and double spacing is great. Leave lots of white space on your letter for clerks to write a quick answer back to you. Include your return address on your letter and include a self addressed, stamped envelope with your request. Request a photocopy of the original record, not a certified extract. The cost is usually the same, but you will get all the information the record contains, not just what will fit on the abstract form. Calculate search dates carefully. Clerks vary in their search policy; some will check the records for a wide range of dates and some will only check a small bracket of years. If the surname is a common one, be as specific as possible. MOST IMPORTANT TIP: Keep your letters brief and to the point! State just the facts. Sorry, but clerks are not interested in your family stories. If you receive an answer that says there is no record, wait a couple of months and try again. Sometime a different clerk knows where certain little-used records have been shelved. If you don't receive an answer, send a courteous reminder, refer to the letter you sent, give the check number and date (if you sent money), briefly restate your request and send another self-addressed, stamped envelope. Your first letter may have gone astray. When a clerk goes out of their way to help you, send a thank-you note. Express appreciation for their help. This will help the genealogist who writes the next letter! ======================================================== TIP OF THE MONTH: Relationships in genealogy can be deceiving. Don't jump to conclusions when you encounter terms of kinship in the old documents. "Brother" may simply mean a brother in church, in a lodge, a husband of a sister or just a term among friends. "Cousin" may refer to someone closely related such as a nephew, niece, uncle, etc. "Senior" or "Junior" may not always be a father and son. It could also mean an uncle and nephew or may simply be a way to distinguish two men of the same name from the same place according to age. Remember that a "junior" may become a "senior" on the death of the elder. ========================================================= COMING EVENTS: July 7-10 The 4th annual Genealogical Institute of Mid America will be held on the campus of the University of Illinois at Springfield; co-sponsored by the Illinois State Genealogical Society. For information and/or detailed brochure, contact Julie Slack, Continuing Education, University of Illinois at Springfield, Springfield, Il 62794. July 12 - The Tulsa Genealogical Society's 9th Annual July Workshop will present Sharon DeBartolo Carmack. For details contact the Society at P. O. Box 585, Tulsa, OK 74101. July 26 - The Joplin Genealogical Society's seminar will be held at the Byers Avenue United Baptist Church. Contact the Society at P. O. Box 152, Joplin, MO 64802. ========================================================= QUERIES ACCEPTED! If you wish to place a query in this newsletter, please email your short query (no more than 3 lines including your email address) to: tfarris268@aol.com. Be sure that query is not in caps but all surnames should be. ========================================================= Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tic.com by akasha.tic.com (8.8.5/akasha.1.31) id UAA08479; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:51:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199706100151.UAA08479@akasha.tic.com> From: "John S. Quarterman" To: Denis Beauregard cc: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: Re: Titanic Messages In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Jun 1997 13:31:05 EDT." Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 20:51:53 -0500 Sender: jsq@tic.com >> I think we will see more and more of this type of junk e-mail. Mailing list >> managers have several options to prevent this kind of attack, including >> making the list moderated, requiring a moderator to approve a message >> before it's posted, or restricting send access to properly subscribed >> addresses. Both of these tactics are inconvenient to both managers and >> users. However, if the pain level rises, we will consider these steps. > >You forget the more efficient method (used by lists at eworld.com and >maybe those at rootsweb.com): only subscribe after confirmation by the >subscriber. But accepting posts only from subscribers would probably be >a good idea as we will be more invaded by spammers. > >For the record, many genealogy lists were recently closed because of >spamming. The series at indiana.edu (maiser) for example. Interesting conflict of terminology. In mailing list terms, "closed" means that subscriptions must be approved by the mailing list manager. All the lists I run are now closed, but they're all still active. Tue, 10 Jun 1997 02:49:57 -0800 Received: from akasha.tic.com (akasha.tic.com [192.135.128.129]) by mailbox2.ucsd.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA22946; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 19:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tic.com by akasha.tic.com (8.8.5/akasha.1.31) id VAA08564; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:00:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199706100200.VAA08564@akasha.tic.com> From: "John S. Quarterman" To: ghoffman@ucsd.edu (Gary Hoffman) Cc: "John S. Quarterman" cc: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: Re: GenWeb and Java In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Jun 1997 22:57:55 PDT." <1997Jun01.225755.2050820@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 21:00:35 -0500 Sender: jsq@tic.com >To GenWebbers: > >It looks like an advanced commercial version of GenWeb is about to hit the >streets. BroderBund's BannerBlue division, the makers of Family Tree Maker, >plans to ship FTM version 4.0 on June 10. According to the FTM web site >, the new publishing features >of FTM include GenWeb-like features. Very interesting. I haven't been able to get a response out of that URL. One thing I've been interested in discussing would be adapting the chart program http://www.mids.org/~jsq/chart/ to use as a sort of genealogical database browser. It's fairly easy to make each person box on a chart active in an image map. The question is what to make the active box point to or do. One answer would be to do what these people have apparently done, which is to simply generate another chart. Java does seem to be the obvious interface these days, now that every web browser has it. >Dick Eastman had more information in last week's Genealogy Newsletter > when he quoted from >BroderBund's news release (apparently not yet available on their own Web >site). For that one I get "document contains no data". Has anyone else had any more luck in examining the Broderbund offering? Thanks, John -- John S. Quarterman Editor, MIDS Internet Weather Report, Matrix Maps Quarterly, and Matrix News President, Matrix Information and Directory Services (MIDS) mids@mids.org, http://www.mids.org, +1-512-451-7602, fax: +1-512-452-0127 1106 Clayton Lane, Suite 500W, Austin, TX 78723, U.S.A. Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:18:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199706200218.VAA02669@www.decaturnet.com> Reply-To: <@decaturnet.com> From: "Ruth McDaniel" To: Subject: Daniel Calvin Covert or Covrett Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 21:03:52 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for information on my grandfather, Daniel Calvin Covert or Covrett who was adopted in the late 1800s or early 1900s and his name changed to Baird. He had lived near Dayton, Ohio and after adoption was moved to Kechi, Kansas. Any informaiton would be great. Ruth McDaniel, email ruth@decaturnet.com Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 01:01:05 -0600 From: smcgee@sol.slcc.edu (Scott McGee (Personal)) Message-Id: <9706270701.AA14226@sol.slcc.edu.> To: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: DOI Hi all. I am a member of the Lynx development list where the following article was posted. It may have implecations for GenWeb activities too, so I am forwarding it here. Scott >>>>>>>> >From owner-lynx-dev@quartz.netop.sig.net Thu Jun 26 20:57:29 1997 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:25:48 -0400 From: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden, x2487) Subject: LYNX-DEV New technology to track To: lynx-dev@sig.net A new technology that you might want to watch is called the Digital Object Identifier (DOI) work. Current DOI Prototype participants include Academic Press, Springer-Verlag, Wiley, and others. See . The idea is centered around folk registering documents (or portions of documents) with a central authority and being assigned a doi. Then the doi is published rather than the URL. Browsers use the DOI, which goes to a central server which then redirects one to the current location for the document. The indirection allows one to be directed into a publisher's charging scheme, etc. I don't suspect that changes to lynx will be necessary for this mechanism, but we should be sure to track the work to ensure if it catches on we take full advantage. -- Larry W. Virden INET: lvirden@cas.org <*> O- "We are all Kosh." Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. ; ; To UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a mail message to majordomo@sig.net ; with "unsubscribe lynx-dev" (without the ; quotation marks) on a line by itself. ; Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:54:00 -0700 To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: Randall Haight Subject: Emigration-ships discussion list and Digest working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi This is to announce a list called EMIGRATION-SHIPS. It is for discussing the ship our ancestors came on. If you have information as in passenger lists, History of a ship or a general discussion of ship life.This would be great to post. This list may help us to have a better understanding of the emigration of out ancestors. Feel free to post anything to do with this subject. To join send a message to: majordomo@northwest.com with this in the body of the message: subscribe EMIGRATION-SHIPS The digest is working also send a message to: majordomo@northwest.com with this in the body of the message: subscribe EMIGRATION-SHIPS-digest To get help write me at: haight1@northwest.com Good luck Randy Haight Here are my other lists.Join by sending the subscribe message as shown to: majordomo@northwest.com subscribe HOYT-HAIGHT subscribe STOKES subscribe LOYALISTS-IN-CANADA subscribe ALBERTA subscribe ONTARIO subscribe BRITISH-COLUMBIA subscribe QUEBEC subscribe NEW-BRUNSWICK subscribe ATLANTIC-PROVINCE { for Nova Scotia, Newfoundland,Labrador and Prince Edward Island} subscribe NORTHERN-CANADA {for Yukon and Northwest Terr.} subscribe SASKATCHEWAN subscribe MANITOBA subscribe STAFFORD subscribe LITTLEPAGE subscribe EMIGRATION-SHIPS subscribe trails-west < for all trails from the Atlantic to the Pacific> subscribe massachusetts subscribe maine subscribe colonial-america subscribe vermont subscribe new-hampshire subscribe connecticut subscribe minnesota subscribe washington subscribe utah subscribe dutchess-co-ny < For Dutchess county N.Y. > subscribe homesteaders subscribe Mcgillivary subscribe Ricketson subscribe Dorland Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:54:12 -0700 To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: Randall Haight Subject: Colonial-America Discussion list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi This list Colonial-America is for discussing the history of our ancestors. You are welcome to post message with stories, family lines and history of their settlement. The 13 colonies as well as Canadian early history and the Spanish in the southern area are all good for this list. Most of the discussion would be before 1800 as most of the colonies became somewhat independent. To join send a message to: majordomo@northwest.com with this in the body of the message: subscribe Colonial-America Thanks and Good luck Randy Haight Here are my other lists.Join by sending the sub message as shown to: majordomo@northwest.com subscribe HOYT/HAIGHT subscribe STOKES subscribe LOYALISTS-IN-CANADA subscribe ALBERTA subscribe ONTARIO subscribe BRITISH-COLUMBIA subscribe QUEBEC subscribe NEW-BRUNSWICK subscribe ATLANTIC-PROVINCE { for Nova Scotia, Newfoundland,Labrador and Prince Edward Island} subscribe NORTHERN-CANADA{for Yukon and Northwest Terr.} subscribe SASKATCHEWAN subscribe MANITOBA subscribe STAFFORD subscribe LITTLEPAGE subscribe EMIGRATION-SHIPS subscribe maine subscribe massachusetts subscribe trails-west ( for discussing movement of our ancestors from the Atlantic to the Pacific ) subscribe colonial-america subscribe vermont subscribe new-hampshire subscribe connecticut subscribe minnesota subscribe washington subscribe utah subscribe dutchess-co-ny subscribe homesteaders subscribe Mcgillivary subscribe Ricketson subscribe Dorland Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:41:04 -0800 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.96]) by mailbox1.ucsd.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA17694 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:18:17 -0700 (PDT) From: TFarris268@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA29175; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970730171726_-1810023888@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: genmtd-l@rootsweb.com, gen-newbie-l@rootsweb.com, gen-share@athens.net, genteen-l@rootsweb.com, gentips-l@rootsweb.com, genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: Free Genealogy Newsletter - "Genealogy Today" The August issue will be sent this week, so if you wish to receive this FREE genealogy newsletter, be sure to send email to tfarris268@aol.com and in the message put subscribe. Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 20:16:16 -0400 To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: "Judith A. King" Subject: Re: William Green, born February 6, 1762 I don't understand why I'm getting messages from this list. I'm not subscribed to it, but lately have been getting several messages. Is something mixed up at rootsweb end or at mine?? Thanks for any help. At 07:20 PM 8/3/97 -0400, you wrote: >Looking for parents of my William Green who was born in Prince Edward county, >Virginia, and joined the American Revolution in 1779 in Hillsborough, Orange >county, North Carolina. William married Kezziah Patton January 9, 1781 in >Hillsborough in her parents home. They moved to Burke county, NC where many >of there children were born, and William later moved to Haywood county, NC >where he died March 2, 1837. Believe the Thomas Green who bought land in >Prince Rdward county, Virginia in 1761 was his father. Also believe this >Thomas Green died in Burke county, NC in 1801. Need proof and documentaion. > HELP! Tom Green, TBGreen3@aol.com > > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 97 06:19:25 PDT From: "T. & D. Gregor Sr." Subject: Eastman's online Genealogy Newletter To: genweb@UCSD.EDU, Mary Durse , Sharon , GENMSC-L@MAIL.EWORLD.COM X-Mailer: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hay All, Is anyone on the Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter List?. I have been a subscriber for just two weeks and I wanted someone else's opinion. Donna Mon, 4 Aug 1997 23:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IRPS BBS (2400014) by irpsbbs.ucsd.edu (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.2) id AA2400014.2148703; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 23:02:56 PDT Message-ID: <1997Aug04.230201.2148703@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: ghoffman@ucsd.edu (Gary Hoffman) Organization: IR/PS UC San Diego, La Jolla CA 92093-0519 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 23:02:01 PDT Subject: GenWeb Mailing List Shutting Down To subscribers of the GenWeb mailing list: After reviewing recent traffic on this list, I have concluded that it has outlived its usefulness and should be allowed to die a graceful death. The GenWebList was launced three years ago to facilitate technical conversations related to building a world-wide genealogy database on the World Wide Web. Since I originally published the GenWeb Proposal in April 1994 (see ), considerable progress has been made towards the ultimate goal. This list was conceived as a technical discussion relating to publishing, indexing, matching, and linking genealogy databases. The archives reflect a healthy discussion during the early days. Lately, however, the messages on the list have tended toward surname research questions and even commercial announcements with fewer technical discussions. This is not to say that the work is not progressing. Many pioneers have contributed to the advancement of the GenWeb. Tim Doyle maintains a growing list of known Web-based genealogy databases at . Gene Stark has improved the GED2HTML program and is running the outstanding GenDex indexing site at And Chris Perry has introduced the GenMatch program that he maintains at to match names on one site with likely names on other sites. According to Gene's index, there are now more than 3 million names in the GenWeb at over 1200 sites. Such numbers certainly qualify the GenWeb as a success. My own writing and "preaching" efforts have not diminished. In the early days, I would post long pieces to the mailing list that generated lively exchanges. I have since found creative outlet in new on-line Web "zines" such as the Journal of Online Genealogy and FamilyTreeMaker Online . Also, the rise of Dick Eastman's weekly newsletter (now at ) and the various mailing lists of the new International Internet Genealogical Society has tended to overshadow our puny efforts at promotion. My professional duties at the university have grown and I have had to fight off intruders who have attempted to take over the lone Unix machine in my stable, the one that hosts the GenWeb site and GenWeb List archives. This one computer has caused more loss of sleep than all the other Novell, Macintosh, and Windows NT servers, which now total 15. If I decide to maintain a Unix box, it will definitely not be flavored Linux. Finally, the outright theft of the name "genweb" by the US (and now World) GENWEB movement has lead to so much confusion and mis-directed message traffic that I have frankly become weary of the effort to keep it straight. By forming the GenWeb Foundation and asserting a trademark in the term "genweb" I thought I was reserving the term for use in describing the concept of linked pedigrees on the Web. The result, however, is that supporters of the GenWeb proposal have declined to use the term (see GenDex and GenMatch) and promoters of an entirely different concept (USGENWEB) have co-opted the term for their own use. I am not relinquishing rights to the term, just shutting down the mailing list. Beginning next week, I will block new subscriptions to the list, then restrict postings, and finally remove names from the list until it includes only a few hardcore programmers and Internet wizards. We will work quitely behind the scenes and publish our work through other channels when it becomes significant. I thank all who have participated. It's been a wild ride. This world is getting more interesting all the time. Cheers, Gary *************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* *************************************************************************** Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:58:14 +0100 To: ghoffman@ucsd.edu (Gary Hoffman) From: ltmiller@postoffice.ptd.net (Linnea Miller) Subject: Re: GenWeb Mailing List Shutting Down Cc: genweb@ucsd.edu Thanks, Gary, for all your efforts & I can appreciate your decision to "restrict" the list. I have only "been here" about 6 months and do not consider myself a "hard-core programmer" or an "internet wizard" - only someone interested and actively participating in getting genealogical data online. I have enjoyed "sitting back" and reading the technical discussions, although some, I confess, were beyond me!! Because of your insight and others contributions, the world of internet genealogy and online databases has become a true asset to those of us using this medium. Thanks, again, SO MUCH!! -Linnea Miller Annville PA Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Gary Hoffman cc: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: Re: GenWeb Mailing List Shutting Down In-Reply-To: <1997Aug04.230201.2148703@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gary Hoffman wrote: > To subscribers of the GenWeb mailing list: > > After reviewing recent traffic on this list, I have concluded that it has > outlived its usefulness and should be allowed to die a graceful > death.... It was wonderful, in its early (and middle) days. Talking on the meta-level. So, my thanks too. Annelise