January 1997 From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sat Jan 4 18:31:19 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA12593 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:31:18 -0800 Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA10499 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:57:16 -0800 (PST) From: JerryCGRS@aol.com Received: by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA04568; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 12:56:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 12:56:39 -0500 Message-ID: <970104125639_1592175445@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU, jewishgen@mail.eworld.com, kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu, new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu, quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, roots-l@rootsweb.com, gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com Subject: Researcher Database We are building a Researcher Database that will link persons who are researching the same families. Once connected, information can be passed between parties. Surnames of interest will be posted on on-line services such as AOL and Compuserve. Names will also be listed on appropriate newsgroups on the Internet.. This database is being made available through genealogical societies for those researchers who do not have computers. This is a USA and multi-national information source. $2.00 US currency for each name of interest ($10 minumum = 5 names). Send information in format: name, birth date, death date, locale. example: John Boswell, 1748-1823, Birmingham, ENG>PA, USA Send info and payment to: Paula and Gerald Boswell, 4880 Old US 64 HWY, Zebulon, NC (USA). note: the fee is to recover some of our on-line and postage costs. Our goal is to put researchers in contact with others who have the same interests. From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sat Jan 4 21:20:15 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA12642 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:20:15 -0800 Received: from eagle1.eaglenet.com (eagle1.eaglenet.com [198.77.74.2]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA06193 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 12:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from eagle1 by eagle1.eaglenet.com (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA23099; Sat, 4 Jan 97 15:35:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:35:22 -0500 (EST) From: Phlete Teachout X-Sender: fteachou@eagle1 To: JerryCGRS@aol.com Cc: gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU, jewishgen@mail.eworld.com, kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu, new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu, quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, roots-l@rootsweb.com, gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com Subject: Re: Researcher Database In-Reply-To: <970104125639_1592175445@emout03.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What's wrong with the currently free Roots Surname List. The main server (at rand.org) appears to be down today; but the mirror is up and running: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/searches/rslsearch.html On Sat, 4 Jan 1997 JerryCGRS@aol.com wrote: > We are building a Researcher Database that will link persons who are > researching the same families. Once connected, information can be passed > between parties. > Surnames of interest will be posted on on-line services such as AOL and > Compuserve. Names will also be listed on appropriate newsgroups on the > Internet.. This database is being made available through genealogical > societies for those researchers who do not have computers. This is a USA and > multi-national information source. $2.00 US currency for each name of > interest ($10 minumum = 5 names). Send information in format: name, birth > date, death date, locale. > example: John Boswell, 1748-1823, Birmingham, ENG>PA, USA > Send info and payment to: Paula and Gerald Boswell, 4880 Old US 64 HWY, > Zebulon, NC (USA). note: the fee is to recover some of our on-line and > postage costs. Our goal is to put researchers in contact with others who > have the same interests. > From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sat Jan 4 21:54:38 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA12654 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:54:38 -0800 Received: from smtp.gte.net (radius3.gte.net [206.124.68.25]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA07382 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.124.67.196] (dfw67196.gte.net [206.124.67.196]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/) via SMTP id PAA06537; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:25:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199701042125.PAA06537@smtp.gte.net> To: "gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com" , "gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu" , "gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com" , "genweb@ucsd.edu" , "JerryCGRS@aol.com" , "jewishgen@mail.eworld.com" , "kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu" , "new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu" , "quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu" , "roots-l@rootsweb.com" Subject: Re: Researcher Database - Profit for Gerald & Paula Boswell ? Date: Sat, 04 Jan 97 15:22:33 -0500 From: "Allison Family Assoc." X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1 -- [ From: Allison Family Assoc. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] -- Why do we genealogist need another data base ? What in the world can you offer that we don't already have....???? Sounds like a money making project ?? Don Robert Allison,CSP,CCP -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Saturday, 04-Jan-97 12:56 PM From: JerryCGRS@aol.com \ America Online: (JERRYCGRS) To: gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com \ Internet: (gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com) To: gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu \ Internet: (gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu) To: gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com \ Internet: (gen-medieval@mail.eworld. com) To: genweb@ucsd.edu \ Internet: (genweb@ucsd.edu) To: jewishgen@mail.eworld.com \ Internet: (jewishgen@mail.eworld.com) To: kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu \ Internet: (kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu) To: new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu \ Internet: (new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.) To: quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu \ Internet: (quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.) To: roots-l@rootsweb.com \ Internet: (roots-l@rootsweb.com) Subject: Researcher Database We are building a Researcher Database that will link persons who are researching the same families. Once connected, information can be passed between parties. Surnames of interest will be posted on on-line services such as AOL and Compuserve. Names will also be listed on appropriate newsgroups on the Internet.. This database is being made available through genealogical societies for those researchers who do not have computers. This is a USA and multi-national information source. $2.00 US currency for each name of interest ($10 minumum = 5 names). Send information in format: name, birth date, death date, locale. example: John Boswell, 1748-1823, Birmingham, ENG>PA, USA Send info and payment to: Paula and Gerald Boswell, 4880 Old US 64 HWY, Zebulon, NC (USA). note: the fee is to recover some of our on-line and postage costs. Our goal is to put researchers in contact with others who have the same interests. -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Jan 5 14:10:11 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA12939 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:10:11 -0800 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA24235 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 05:39:21 -0800 (PST) From: JerryCGRS@aol.com Received: by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA20142; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 08:39:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 08:39:07 -0500 Message-ID: <970105083905_372680276@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU, jewishgen@mail.eworld.com, kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu, new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu, quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, roots-l@rootsweb.com, gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com Subject: Researcher Database The posting concerning our Researcher Database was done in a manner which advertises a commercial endeavor. For this we apologize. Our purpose is to link persons who are researching a common ancestor. Many of these persons do not have access to a computer. Please pardon our ignorance. Paula and Gerald Boswell From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Jan 5 15:18:42 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA12961 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:18:42 -0800 Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA03242 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 06:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from eskimo.com (chance@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA03865; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 06:43:54 -0800 Received: from localhost by eskimo.com (8.7.6) id GAA22459; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 06:43:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 06:43:51 -0800 (PST) From: Vicki Lindsay To: JerryCGRS@aol.com cc: gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU, jewishgen@mail.eworld.com, kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu, new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu, quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, roots-l@rootsweb.com, gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com Subject: Re: Researcher Database In-Reply-To: <970105083905_372680276@emout06.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Reply: chance@eskimo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 JerryCGRS@aol.com wrote: > The posting concerning our Researcher Database was done in > a manner which advertises a commercial endeavor. For this we apologize. > Our purpose is to link persons who are researching a common ancestor. Many > of these persons do not have access to a computer. > Please pardon our ignorance. > Paula and Gerald Boswell If your intention is to connect those people with common surnames who are =not= connected to a computer, then maybe the internet isn't the place to advertise your product. Especially since you have to have a computer to be connected to the internet. -- Vicki Lindsay (chance@eskimo.com) From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Jan 5 15:47:24 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA12973 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:47:23 -0800 Received: from smtp.gte.net (mail1.gte.net [206.124.65.236]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA25158 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (dfw67146.gte.net [206.124.67.146]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/) via SMTP id JAA17585; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:16:34 -0600 Message-ID: <32CFC53A.1FE@gte.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 09:14:02 -0600 From: Don Robert Allison Reply-To: als@gte.net Organization: The Allison Clan X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vicki Lindsay CC: JerryCGRS@aol.com, gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU, jewishgen@mail.eworld.com, kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu, new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu, quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, roots-l@rootsweb.com, gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com Subject: Re: Researcher Database References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vicki Lindsay wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 JerryCGRS@aol.com wrote: > > > The posting concerning our Researcher Database was done in > > a manner which advertises a commercial endeavor. For this we apologize. > > Our purpose is to link persons who are researching a common ancestor. Many > > of these persons do not have access to a computer. > > Please pardon our ignorance. > > Paula and Gerald Boswell > > If your intention is to connect those people with common surnames who are > =not= connected to a computer, then maybe the internet isn't the place > to advertise your product. Especially since you have to have a computer > to be connected to the internet. > > -- > Vicki Lindsay (chance@eskimo.com) It is sad that a person can not understand an average message, posting non computer related information on a computer base system is lam. From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jan 7 16:22:36 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA13955 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:22:36 -0800 Received: from metronet.com (mail.metronet.com [192.245.137.6]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA07778 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbwyli (dal200.metronet.com) by metronet.com with SMTP id AA00338 (5.67a/IDA1.5hp for ); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:24:14 -0600 Message-Id: <32D26AAD.1323@metronet.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 09:24:29 -0600 From: "John V. Wylie" Reply-To: jwylie@metronet.com Organization: GENTECH X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: genweb@UCSD.EDU, GEDCOM-L@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU, gencmp-l@mail.eworld.com, harris@texas.net Subject: GENTECH Technical Session Announcement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PRESS RELEASE GENTECH, Inc. 6 Jan 1997 P. O. Box 28021 Dallas, TX 75228-0021 GENTECH Announces 1997 Technical Session Contact: John Wylie at , 2818 Landershire Lane, Garland, TX 75044-5974. 972-495-4410 FAX 972.495.1569 or Robert Charles Anderson at <74214.421@compuserve.com> or Visit our website at . GENTECH is pleased to announce the 1997 Technical Session. GENTECH Technical Sessions have been held at least annually for the past five years, and have addressed a number of issues important to the effective and responsible use of technology in genealogical research. As with all past Technical Sessions, this one is held in conjunction with a major national conference, in this case GENTECH97. To learn more about GENTECH97 visit our website at or contact . The Technical Session will be held Thursday, 23 January 1997, 7:30 to 9:30 PM, at the Plano Centre, in Plano, Texas, a suburb of Dallas. The Session will consist of two reports. The theme is "Modelling Genealogical Data" and both reports will be moderated by Robert Charles Anderson, GENTECH Vice-President For Technology. GENTECH has undertaken the task of creating a lexicon of genealogical terms and concepts to be used by the developers of genealogical software. Early in its activities, the Lexicon Working Group realized that a data model of the genealogical research process was needed. This meeting provides two reports on work done on that model, and provides an opportunity for all interested parties to contribute their ideas and comments. There will be two semi-formal presentations of about twenty minutes each, with the remainder of the time devoted to questions and discussion. The first report is "What a Professional Genealogist Wants in a Genealogical Program." by Birdie Holsclaw. Commercially developed genealogical software must be directed toward a broad audience in order to generate sufficient sales to justify the work of creating the software. Thus genealogical software will not be designed for the narrower market of advanced professional and scholarly users. In fact, when asked, as they frequently are, a significant number of professionals will say that they use none of the commercially available packages. A professional genealogist of great experience, and also a member of the Lexicon Working Group, Birdie will outline what is missing from genealogical software, and why developers should be adding these features to their products. The second report will be on the Joint Application Development (JAD) meetings of the Lexicon Working Group by Paul Barkley. The Lexicon Working Group will have met twice for JAD meetings, at FGS Rochester last August and just prior to this session. The aim of these meetings is to develop a model of the genealogical research process that will serve as a basis for a lexicon of genealogical terms. The model and the lexicon may then be used for the creation of new genealogical software. In this session the facilitator of the JAD Meetings will report on the progress to date. GENTECH is an educational, all-volunteer, non-profit, tax-exempt national organization working to promote the effective and responsible use of technology in genealogical research. - 30 - From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jan 8 09:48:20 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA14326 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:48:19 -0800 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA09293 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) From: Emaildeb@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA18546 for genweb@ucsd.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 04:19:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 04:19:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970108010050_1090218352@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: FREE* Genealogy Newsetter The Genealogy Corner is proud to announce the following free items for the month of Feb.: 1. FREE trial issue of the monthly newsletter 2. FREE ad placements such as surname request, homepage info., other items related to genealogy The cost for the monthly Genealogy Corner newsletter is: $6- for email (1 Year Sub.) $12-for snailmail (1 Year Sub.) $15 for both *FREE genealogy research for newsletter members* I charge $1 for each surname request. Once I make a PROOF connection, I will advise you and then for $2 per page, I will email and snailmail you the info. The newsletter is filled with lots of goodies such as: 1. Genealogy Resources on the net 2. Genealogy Shareware 3. Surname Searches 4. Family Reunion Information 5. Genealogy Classifieds 6. Historic Site of the Month 7. Famous Historical Person of the Month 8. Old Fashioned Recipe 9. Favorite Stories 10. 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Blessings, Debra From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jan 8 13:14:47 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA14390 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:14:46 -0800 Received: from usia.gov (XGATE.USIA.GOV [198.67.64.2]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA14111 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 04:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from Connect2 Message Router by usia.gov via Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.6; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 07:26:05 -0500 Message-ID: <7B8FD33201BD1110@usia.gov> In-Reply-To: <738FD33201BD1110@usia.gov> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 7:22:37 -0500 From: "Crist, Dave" Sender: "Crist, Dave" Organization: USIA To: emaildeb@aol.com Cc: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Re: FREE* Genealogy Newsetter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.6 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway I wish not to receive advertising. From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jan 8 14:20:08 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA14416 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:20:08 -0800 Received: from server.imsday.com ([205.219.2.2]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA15593 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:51:05 -0800 (PST) From: m.noack.@imsday.com Received: from d206.imsday.com by server.imsday.com (8.6.12/8) id IAA21780; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:29:22 -0800 Message-ID: <32D3CA4B.314A@imsday.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 08:24:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Crist, Dave" CC: emaildeb@aol.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Re: FREE* Genealogy Newsetter References: <7B8FD33201BD1110@usia.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wish not to, too. Crist, Dave wrote: > > I wish not to receive advertising. From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jan 8 16:16:10 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA14457 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:16:09 -0800 Received: from informix.com (kingcrab.informix.com [158.58.16.26]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA08401 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 07:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from infmx.informix.com (infmx.informix.com [158.58.16.11]) by informix.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA06235; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 07:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from obelix.informix.com by infmx.informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25801; Wed, 8 Jan 97 07:29:58 PST Received: from bhindi by obelix.informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06429; Wed, 8 Jan 97 15:29:58 GMT Sender: doom@informix.com Message-Id: <32D3BD82.6D53@informix.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:30:10 +0000 From: Mark Dooling Organization: Informix Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.10 9000/777) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: m.noack.@imsday.com Cc: "Crist, Dave" , emaildeb@aol.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Re: FREE* Genealogy Newsetter References: <7B8FD33201BD1110@usia.gov> <32D3CA4B.314A@imsday.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please be careful who you mail these messages to at the moment you are all telling EVERYBODY on the alias that you don't want adverts (and bny everybody i mean hundreds of people you do not know....do you really want us all to know who you are and how to reach you? i don't think so) so when sending emails, please take great care over who you send them to look carefully at the MAIL TO and COPY TO line (or similar) and make sure this word does not appear: genweb If it does, you are talking to ALL of us!!! m.noack.@imsday.com wrote: > > I wish not to, too. > > Crist, Dave wrote: > > > > I wish not to receive advertising. -- MARK DOOLING Team Leader Informix Technical Support UK/MEA +44 1784 240333 Intranet: http://balti/doom mailto:doom@informix.com mailto:mark.dooling@pemail.net From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Thu Jan 9 19:43:15 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA14959 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:43:15 -0800 Received: from r1.boston.juno.com (r1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.241]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA19041 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from x3.boston.juno.com (x3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.22]) by r1.boston.juno.com (8.6.13/8.7.Alpha.4/1.34.kim) with ESMTP id NAA09849 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:26:18 -0500 Received: (from georgebutcher@juno.com) by x3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NVJ29340; Thu, 09 Jan 1997 13:25:02 EST To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:21:58 PST Subject: Request for Info Message-ID: <19970109.132358.12718.2.georgebutcher@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,14,20,23-25 From: georgebutcher@juno.com (GEORGE A. BUTCHER) To Whom It May Concern: have Volume I of Musquodoboit Pioneers - A record of Seventy families, their homesteads and Genealogies 1780-1980 by Jennie Reid which is now out of print. t contains genealogical data on the following families:Edward Annand, The Archibald Family, Adam Archibald, John Archibald, Jonathan Archibald, Matthew Tayor Archibald, Robert Archibald, Samuel Burke Archibald, Samuel Fisher Archibald, William Archibald, John Bates, Henry Behrenit, John Braden, The Brown Family, George Bell, James Benvie, Adam Bryson, Robert Bryson, William Bryson, James Bruce,WILLIAM BUTCHER, William Henry Cumminger, James A.Cruickshank, David Dickie, George Scott Dickie, James Drady, John Dunbrack, Robert Ervin Alexander, Mcnutt Fisher, John Fox, Alexander Fraser, William Guild (gould), Colonel Henry Arthur Gladwin, Hugh Hanna, William Hay, John Higgins, Owen Edward Hogan, Henry Hollingsworth, Johnson Kaulback, James Kent John Layton, and Henry Leck. I am doing research on my family descendent of William Butcher and would appreciate any information on those descendants or William's ancestors. Am also tracing my mothers side Watson.f any one wants information from the book aforementioned I would be glad to have the section desired xeroxed for just the cost of the xerox and mailing. . I can be reached at georgebutcher@juno.com or grail10203@aol.com Could you furnish me with sources to research the Butcher family ancestory in England. hanks in advance and I hope I can help some of your people. Regards George Butcher 4263 Village Square Lane Stone Mountain, Ga 30083 From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sat Jan 11 00:03:26 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA15538 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:03:26 -0800 Received: from Mail.IDT.NET (mail.idt.net [198.4.75.205]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA18225 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from cscott9.stic.net (sa8-218.stic.net [204.57.113.227]) by Mail.IDT.NET (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12657; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:05:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970110170716.00694b00@mail.idt.net> X-Sender: cscott9@mail.idt.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:11:02 -0600 To: cscott9@idt.net From: charles Subject: Re: Researcher Database Cc: gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU, jewishgen@mail.eworld.com, kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu, new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu, quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, roots-l@rootsweb.com, gen-de-l@mail.eworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What's wrong with the currently free Roots Surname List. The main server (at rand.org) appears to be down today; but the mirror is up and running: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/searches/rslsearch.html On Sat, 4 Jan 1997 JerryCGRS@aol.com wrote: > We are building a Researcher Database that will link persons who are > researching the same families. Once connected, information can be passed > between parties. > Surnames of interest will be posted on on-line services such as AOL and > Compuserve. Names will also be listed on appropriate newsgroups on the > Internet.. This database is being made available through genealogical > societies for those researchers who do not have computers. This is a USA and > multi-national information source. $2.00 US currency for each name of > interest ($10 minumum = 5 names). Send information in format: name, birth > date, death date, locale. > example: John Boswell, 1748-1823, Birmingham, ENG>PA, USA > Send info and payment to: Paula and Gerald Boswell, 4880 Old US 64 HWY, > Zebulon, NC (USA). note: the fee is to recover some of our on-line and > postage costs. Our goal is to put researchers in contact with others who > have the same interests. > From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sat Jan 11 07:11:25 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA15671 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:11:25 -0800 Received: from random.tpgi.com.au (random.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.7]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA23057 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (syd-ppp-084.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.84]) by random.tpgi.com.au (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04820 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:46:29 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <32D7375D.23CC@tpgi.com.au> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:46:53 +1100 From: David Scott Reply-To: dscott@tpgi.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Standard Internet Screening Format? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings from Sydney. I am one who has downloaded John Smith's gensrch suite of programs asome time ago and found them very useful - my gedcom is also with genserv and I can see the benefits of John's work there as well. (Having said that, I do not know how to contact John as the email address I have bounces.) I have been pondering a more generic genealogy internet query and thought members of this mailing list might be able to shed some light. If this is not the best forum, I would welcome other suggestions. I find myself browsing sites and coming across large lists of surnames (similar to those I have at my own ged2html site), lists of member interests from some genealogy group, and various other surname lists. My thought extends, however, to obituary columns in the paper and other indexes (and even to the surname inquiries in the newsgroup soc.genealogy.surnames). Even though my family database is relatively modest compared to some (2,200 people), without spending an inordinate amount of time checking each entry one at a time I am not confident I have picked up any potential overlap. What would be very useful is to have a standard format (text) file (which could possibly be the format used in the gensrch *.ndx files) that could be available at these sites. The gendex format is also a possibility though it seems to me beneficial to include the name of the spouse if known. Also one aspect of the gendex format is the identification of where to find the individual on a web page which is not necessarily helpful in the wider context. This file would not need to include parent/child relationships for the purposes of this screening function and could therefore be considerably smaller than a gedcom. This file could be quickly downloaded and a simplified version of gensrch (or equivalent) could then compare it against the database of the user. (Alternatively, if the file had a unique suffix, a browser such as netscape could call the program directly whenever it loaded such a file.) I make these comments as a user - not as a programmer. I welcome your thoughts. David -- ---------------------------------------------- David Scott dscott@tpgi.com.au http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/dscott/david.htm ---------------------------------------------- From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Jan 12 05:58:18 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA16066 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:58:18 -0800 Received: from dns.tnp.com (dns.tnp.com [207.51.75.10]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA10538 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:33:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from Default (ppp107.tnp.com [207.51.76.107]) by dns.tnp.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA03800 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 00:39:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 00:39:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701120539.AAA03800@dns.tnp.com> X-Sender: walter@tnp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: genweb@UCSD.EDU From: walter@tnp.com (walter kehoe) .. From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Mon Jan 13 11:53:30 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA16596 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:53:29 -0800 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA27571 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:22:30 -0800 (PST) From: JerryCGRS@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA03021; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:22:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:22:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970113062225_878673228@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: nc/sc.roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-mat@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, gen-medieval@mail.eworld.com, genweb@UCSD.EDU, jewishgen@mail.eworld.com, kulanu-l@ube.ubalt.edu, new-gen-url@remgate.pop.indiana.edu, quaker-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu, nc/sc-roots@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu Subject: NOBLES Looking for researchers/descendants of Isaac Nobles, Beaufort Co., NC b. ca. 1760. Will share info From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jan 14 00:30:25 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA16833 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:30:25 -0800 Received: from core.apana.org.au (core.apana.org.au [203.12.236.10]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA18423 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from greebo.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by core.apana.org.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with UUCP id KAA29202; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:27:45 +1100 Received: by greebo.apana.org.au (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Mon, 13 Jan 97 14:17:20 +1000 From: paulf@greebo.apana.org.au (Paul Foxworthy) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 14:17:19 +1000 Message-ID: To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Cc: dscott@tpgi.com.au Subject: Standard Internet Screening Format? Organization: Coherent Software X-Mailer: Helldiver 1.07 (Waffle 1.65) Lines: 47 David Scott wrote: >I find myself browsing sites and coming across large lists of surnames >(similar to those I have at my own ged2html site), lists of member >interests from some genealogy group, and various other surname lists. >My thought extends, however, to obituary columns in the paper and other >indexes (and even to the surname inquiries in the newsgroup >soc.genealogy.surnames). >What would be very useful is to have a standard format (text) file >(which could possibly be the format used in the gensrch *.ndx files) >that could be available at these sites. >The gendex format is also a possibility... though it seems to me beneficial >This file could be quickly downloaded and a simplified version of >gensrch (or equivalent) could then compare it against the database of >the user. (Alternatively, if the file had a unique suffix, a browser >such as netscape could call the program directly whenever it loaded such >a file.) Have a look at the Tiny Tafel format. It looks a lot like requests to research directories: surname, date range, locations. Free software exists to attempt to match two Tiny Tafel files and find overlaps. The match can be done on exact spelling of the surnames or on soundex. Michael Cooley's genealogy.org site used to have a big collection of Tiny Tafels, but I recently discovered they were lost in a hard disk crash in October. From memory, GenealogySF used to have a collection. Also from memory, the Penn State FTP site has Tiny Tafel software. Have a look at ftp://cac.psu.edu.au/pub/genealogy/ Cheers Paul Foxworthy -- -- Paul Foxworthy -------------------- paulf@greebo.apana.org.au -- Jaime had never realised that trees made a sound when they grew, and no-one else had realised it either, because the sound is made over hundreds of years in waves of twenty-four hours from peak to peak. Speed it up, and the sound a tree makes is *vrooom*. -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jan 17 06:02:16 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA18638 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:02:15 -0800 Received: from user1.inficad.com (user1.inficad.com [207.19.74.3]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA12812 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:33:23 -0800 (PST) From: jayhawker@inficad.com Received: from inficad.inficad.com (ip59.ts5.phx.inficad.com [208.198.101.59]) by user1.inficad.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10022 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:30:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970116212827.00667538@mail.inficad.com> X-Sender: jayhawker@mail.inficad.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:28:27 +0000 To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Mcguire, Bond Co., Ill 1850-1870 I am searching for my ancestor Jackson McGuire who was in bond co Illinois in 1850. He married Lucinda Sellers 3/14/1841 in greenville, bond co., ill. He sold land in bond county 1844, 1847, 1851. This is the last thing I can find on him. The oldest daughter married and 2 of Jackson children showed in in Adair county, Iowa in 1870. But cannot located the family after early 1850's. Lucinda Sellers came from sellers family of bond county but I do not know which sellers. Can annyone give me help? Barbara From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jan 17 06:07:19 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA18660 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:07:19 -0800 Received: from user2.inficad.com (user2.inficad.com [207.19.74.4]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA04859 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:43:30 -0800 (PST) From: jayhawker@inficad.com Received: from inficad.inficad.com (ip59.ts5.phx.inficad.com [208.198.101.59]) by user2.inficad.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA26505 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:48:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970116213836.00667538@mail.inficad.com> X-Sender: jayhawker@mail.inficad.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:38:36 +0000 To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: woodson co., ks. Eden H. Post I am looking for my gg grandmother who was married to Eden Post. Her name was Susan Lewis(maiden) and from wales. She was previously married to James Williams. Susan and Eden had2 children rosetta post born 1868 and died 4/25/1898 woodson co., ks. George W. Post born 1862 and died 10/11/1887 at coyville, ks. Susan had sarah and benjamin williams from her former marriage. I know George remarried but cannot find a record where susan either was divorced or died. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Barbara From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jan 24 12:03:57 1997 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA23565 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:03:46 -0800 Received: from coastal.intercoast.com.au (coastal.intercoast.com.au [203.22.112.2]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA17405 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 03:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from manly12.intercoast.com.au (manly12.intercoast.com.au [203.22.113.12]) by coastal.intercoast.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA02267; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 21:20:20 +1100 Message-ID: <32E9A680.3A0C@intercoast.com.au> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:21:52 -0800 From: Peter & Bronwyn Berger X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: genweb@UCSD.EDU CC: bergeroz@intercoast.com.au Subject: GenWeb developments X-URL: http://demo.genweb.org/gene/genedemo.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just saw the demo, proposal and other items. Good luck and where here for any support from Australia. Comments - names carry multiple spelling variations due to translations, literacy, etc. - translations over multiple languages require that fonts recognise at least the major modern and ancient language groups - large scale operational name indexes e.g police records, etc. use aliases to recognise variations and cross link files and then to chain updates between files based on error control limits, "need to know" and other parameters. - individuals may exist/existed but without full or any "proof of identity" e.g war zones, early settlers, vagrants, destroyed records, adoptees, John Does - some ancient documents have been mistranslated requiring "second opinions" to proove details - some cultural phrases are misused, e.g. "the son of..." may mean a direct son, or descendant, or legal heir, or member of the household. Look forward to seeing future developments. I am a member of the Australian Society of Genealogists Yours faithfully, Peter Berger -- >From the Berger family, Picnic Point, Sydney, Australia e-mail:- bergeroz@intercoast.com.au http://www.intercoast.com.au/bergeroz - in test form, do not "sign the guestbook" yet