December 1996 From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Dec 1 15:04:42 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA16418 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:04:42 -0800 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA29830 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) From: MattHBrown@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04185 for genweb@ucsd.edu; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 10:00:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 10:00:57 -0500 Message-ID: <961201100057_1553887102@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Re: adding Gedcom In a message dated 96-11-27 13:41:05 EST, Tom Raynor writes: << GEDClean handles everyone the same way. If you have identified them as living, or there is anything in any "DEATH" field (date/place of death, burial, or cremation, or even just a "Y" for "yes"), it knows what to do. >> For those who would like a similar function for Linux/Unix (or other environments), I have written a perl script 'gedfilter.pl'. It is not as sophisticated as Tom's in that it only looks at death dates. It is available, along with a lot of other info on how to publish a GEDCOM using perl, at: www.genealogy.org/~mbrown/howto.htm Matt Brown Houston, TX From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Dec 3 14:22:26 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA17293 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:22:25 -0800 Received: from most.fw.hac.com (gw1.hughes-defense-comm.com [151.168.2.3]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA27831 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by most.fw.hac.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11318; Tue, 3 Dec 96 09:15:23 EST Received: from unknown(151.168.254.82) by gw1 via smap (V1.3mjr) id smI011212; Tue Dec 3 09:13:25 1996 Received: by most (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05382; Tue, 3 Dec 96 09:13:22 EST Message-Id: <9612031413.AA05382@most> Received: from pseserv3.fw.hac.com(151.168.254.223) by most via smap (V1.5khhunt) id sma005354; Tue Dec 3 09:12:17 1996 Received: by pseserv3 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29116; Tue, 3 Dec 96 09:12:30 -0500 From: "W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)" Subject: Re: sources of sources To: GEDCOM-L@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU Date: Tue, 3 Dec 96 9:12:29 EST Cc: genweb@UCSD.EDU In-Reply-To: <199612031337.IAA28141@Nimbus.CAM.ORG>; from "Denis Beauregard" at Dec 3, 96 8:37 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] This started out as a different topic, but... :> From: Denis Beauregard :> Subject: Re: sources of sources :> To: GEDCOM-L@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU :> :> Every country, colony, etc. has a specific set of tools for :> genealogy. For example, Quebec has a complete set for all :> vital records in printed format (PRDH) early to 1765, a complete :> set of all European families (and some Metis) before 1731 :> in a book (DGFQ) and a few more references. PRDH defined standard :> numbers for all records before 1766. :> :> Shall we "adapt" GEDCOM in view of those tools ? I think instead :> there should be some set of national/ethnical/colonial etc. of :> codes for common books (in the worldwide gendweb network for :> instances). And while it is obvious such codes won't fit countries :> borders, it is usefull to have them fitted to borders (i.e. :> to have a code list CAN-QC-PRDH for a reference from PRDH). :> :> This could give something like :> :> 2 SOUR &CAN-QC-PRDH-46-321& (note: no @ as it is not a tag) :> i.e. source is located in CANada, then QuebeC, is the PRDH, vol. 46 :> p. 321. If such a list of references is built through the :> worldwide genwed and made automatically retrievable (i.e. with :> a standard presentation) then it could be integrated to those :> software who can technically high tech (like TMG and Lifelines). :> :> We can probably begin now to set such a list of data, but the :> format should be discussed here for compatibility and in :> gencmp-l to reach other interested. Excellent Idea! Check GenWeb also for contributors. Other suggestions: * Use the "standard" two letter country codes ( "CA" rather than "CAN" ). * What about references that are standard for more than one country? * If such a list is "built through the worldwide genwed" then perhaps the URL could form the citation, for example, http:/worldgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46.html#page321 (This makes it easy to cite items which are not "standards" but are on usgenweb) (Except that worldgenweb is distributed and not in one place, so that wouldn't really work.) And a question: If "PRDH defined standard numbers..." why not use the number instead of page, i.e., http:/usgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46.html#SN-2345 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) Office: 219-429-4923 Hughes Defense Communications (MS 10-40) Home: 219-471-7206 Fort Wayne, IN 46808 (Unix): wwgrol@pseserv3.fw.hac.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Dec 3 16:56:06 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA17340 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:56:06 -0800 Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA25053 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (beaur@localhost) by Ocean.CAM.ORG (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA06954; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:50:08 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Ocean.CAM.ORG: beaur owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:50:02 -0500 (EST) From: Denis Beauregard To: "W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)" cc: GEDCOM-L@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU, genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Standard names for sources (was Re: sources of sources) In-Reply-To: <9612031413.AA05382@most> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) wrote: > :> This could give something like > :> > :> 2 SOUR &CAN-QC-PRDH-46-321& (note: no @ as it is not a tag) > > * Use the "standard" two letter country codes ( "CA" rather than "CAN" ). > > * What about references that are standard for more than one country? PILI, IGI, etc. > * If such a list is "built through the worldwide genwed" then perhaps > the URL could form the citation, for example, > http:/worldgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46.html#page321 > (This makes it easy to cite items which are not "standards" but are > on usgenweb) (Except that worldgenweb is distributed and not in one > place, so that wouldn't really work.) hum, we have 2 different concepts here: place where the reference is given and tag for reference. A solution: http://[genweb-reference-page-for-QC]#PRDH this points to a description of PRDH and to a model for that source PRDH is Program etc. model1 is vol/page/section-date of document sample is 12/123/B451-96-12-18 model2 is vol/page/section sample is 17/432/N001 there should be a base worldwide reference table i.e. worldgenweb/wwtag.html CA Canada cagenweb/catag.html US USA usgenweb/ustag.htm etc. cagenweb/catag.html is a regional reference table i.e. CA-QC Quebec qcgenweb/qctag.html CA-ON Ontario ongenweb/ontag.html qcgenweb/qctag.html is a local reference table i.e. CA-QC-PRDH description, model(s) and sample(s) given > And a question: If "PRDH defined standard numbers..." why not use the > number instead of page, i.e., http:/usgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46.html#SN-2345 I don't think we should now give reference to a page, but have a reference model allowing to identify a source thru the net. I already have a long list (1000s of items) with books available in Montreal and Quebec genealogy collections, so I have a good overview of a global model. But at this time, I am completing a book for pre-publication. I will see maybe in end of december to propose a more complete worldwide model with examples. Denis ### Denis Beauregard, genealogiste amateur, Internet: beaur@cam.org ### Page web de genealogie: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/index.html ### Genealogy Web page: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/welcome.html ### Sujets: Quebec, France, Acadie, experts francophones, etc. From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Dec 3 18:19:05 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA17367 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:19:04 -0800 Received: from arachnet.algroup.co.uk (arachnet.algroup.co.uk [194.128.162.1]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA12480 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 10:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from heap.ben.algroup.co.uk by arachnet.algroup.co.uk id aa16928; 3 Dec 96 18:14 GMT Received: from gonzo.ben.algroup.co.uk by heap.ben.algroup.co.uk id aa10201; 3 Dec 96 17:19 GMT Subject: Re: Standard names for sources (was Re: sources of sources) To: Denis Beauregard Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:11:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Laurie Cc: wwgrol@pseserv3.fw.hac.com, GEDCOM-L@listserv.nodak.edu, genweb@UCSD.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Denis Beauregard" at Dec 3, 96 11:50:02 am Reply-To: ben@algroup.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <9612031711.aa13648@gonzo.ben.algroup.co.uk> As a general principle, I would counsel against using any standard which mandates the use of '#' as part of the URL. This is essentially a restriction on the HTML (everything that could come after the # must be in a single document). A reference like: http:/worldgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46.html#page321 implies a huge document (a whole volume in one!). If people actually want to use bookmarks to resolve the reference, they can always rewrite the URL in the server, using, for example, mod_rewrite.c (now bundled in Apache 1.2 - you do all use Apache, don't you? ;-). Doing the reverse would be more problematic (it may conflict with "real" bookmarks). So, the above should really be: http:/worldgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46/page321.html Another minor point is that the use of funny characters for the markup doesn't strike me as optimal - you run out of funny characters pretty quick. Despite the overhead, it may be worth considering an HTML-like markup: 2 SOUR CAN-QC-PRDH-46-321M I already do all my GEDCOM markup this way (only using > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) wrote: > > > :> This could give something like > > :> > > :> 2 SOUR &CAN-QC-PRDH-46-321& (note: no @ as it is not a tag) > > > > * Use the "standard" two letter country codes ( "CA" rather than "CAN" ). > > > > * What about references that are standard for more than one country? > > PILI, IGI, etc. > > > * If such a list is "built through the worldwide genwed" then perhaps > > the URL could form the citation, for example, > > http:/worldgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46.html#page321 > > (This makes it easy to cite items which are not "standards" but are > > on usgenweb) (Except that worldgenweb is distributed and not in one > > place, so that wouldn't really work.) > > hum, we have 2 different concepts here: place where the reference is given > and tag for reference. A solution: > > http://[genweb-reference-page-for-QC]#PRDH > this points to a description of PRDH and to a model for that source > PRDH is Program etc. > model1 is vol/page/section-date of document > sample is 12/123/B451-96-12-18 > model2 is vol/page/section > sample is 17/432/N001 > > there should be a base worldwide reference table i.e. > worldgenweb/wwtag.html > > CA Canada cagenweb/catag.html > US USA usgenweb/ustag.htm > etc. > > cagenweb/catag.html is a regional reference table i.e. > > CA-QC Quebec qcgenweb/qctag.html > CA-ON Ontario ongenweb/ontag.html > > qcgenweb/qctag.html is a local reference table i.e. > > CA-QC-PRDH > description, model(s) and sample(s) given > > > And a question: If "PRDH defined standard numbers..." why not use the > > number instead of page, i.e., http:/usgenweb/CA/QC/PRDH/Vol-46.html#SN-2345 > > I don't think we should now give reference to a page, but have a reference > model allowing to identify a source thru the net. > > I already have a long list (1000s of items) with books available in > Montreal and Quebec genealogy collections, so I have a good overview of > a global model. But at this time, I am completing a book for > pre-publication. I will see maybe in end of december to propose a more > complete worldwide model with examples. > > Denis > > ### Denis Beauregard, genealogiste amateur, Internet: beaur@cam.org > ### Page web de genealogie: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/index.html > ### Genealogy Web page: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/welcome.html > ### Sujets: Quebec, France, Acadie, experts francophones, etc. > -- Ben Laurie Phone: +44 (181) 994 6435 Email: ben@algroup.co.uk Freelance Consultant and Fax: +44 (181) 994 6472 Technical Director URL: http://www.algroup.co.uk/Apache-SSL A.L. Digital Ltd, Apache Group member (http://www.apache.org) London, England. Apache-SSL author From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Dec 3 20:25:51 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA17417 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 20:25:51 -0800 Received: from most.fw.hac.com (gw1.hughes-defense-comm.com [151.168.2.3]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24381 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by most.fw.hac.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18207; Tue, 3 Dec 96 15:24:33 EST Received: from unknown(151.168.254.82) by gw1 via smap (V1.3mjr) id smI017945; Tue Dec 3 15:21:56 1996 Received: by most (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16636; Tue, 3 Dec 96 15:21:51 EST Message-Id: <9612032021.AA16636@most> Received: from pseserv3.fw.hac.com(151.168.254.223) by most via smap (V1.5khhunt) id sma016567; Tue Dec 3 15:19:46 1996 Received: by pseserv3 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05678; Tue, 3 Dec 96 15:20:01 -0500 From: "W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)" Subject: Re: Standard names for sources To: GEDCOM-L@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU (Genealogical Data Communications Specs ) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 96 15:20:00 EST Cc: genweb@UCSD.EDU In-Reply-To: ; from "Rafal Prinke" at Nov 26, 96 11:25 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] How about :> > 0 @Ix@ INDI :> > 1 SOUR @Sx@ :> > 2 PAGE exact location in case URL is broken :> > 2 DATA :> > 3 TEXT XXXX :> > :> > 0 @Sx@ SOUR :> > 1 TITL :> > 1 AUTH XXXX is whatever reads well in the format you intend to publish. Also, although some DNS or DNS-like mechanism might work well, here's a similar but slightly different approach: Suppose the real location of source ECRUOS is http://www.top.notch.ISP.com/~Jennie.Ologist/sources/ecruoS And suppose Jennie has arranged the info so that ecruoS is a directory containing a directory per volume of the source, each containing a file per page, without no subdivisions (NAME= anchors) within the files. And suppose that the "accepted" form of citation is ECRUOS-V02-P321-L23 And suppose that Jennie is a worldgenweb volunteer, complying with the standards the worldgenweb project establishes. OK, Jennie, via the coordinators for whatever locations are appropriate "registers" this URL as the "correct location". The coordinators pass on this registration to some generous genweb provider who, via either CGI or a "custom" Web server acts as a middleman. So I can click on the URL http://worldgenweb.org/XX/YY/ZZ/ECRUOS-V02-P321-L23 and the server will fetch http://www.top.notch.ISP.com/~Jennie.Ologist/sources/ecruoS/vol_02/page321.html and feed it back to my browser. If Jennie's circumstances change so that she can no longer provide the data, a new volunteer can obtain the files, change the layout if they want, and "register" the new scheme with the worldgenweb project. If the idea of a "relay" Web server sounds far-fetched, take a look at an existing site that has already implemented a "middleman" capability (though for a different purpose): http://anonymizer.cs.cmu.edu:8080/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) Office: 219-429-4923 Hughes Defense Communications (MS 10-40) Home: 219-471-7206 Fort Wayne, IN 46808 (Unix): wwgrol@pseserv3.fw.hac.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 07:01:16 -0500 From: Nicholas Oughtibridge <100020.1117@compuserve.com> Subject: uFTi 1.2 Gedcom to HTML program released To: GENWEB List Message-ID: <199612140701_MC1-D0F-A928@compuserve.com> Just a quick note to let you know I have released an upgraded version of uFTi. It now can create Frames so that indexes and detail can be shown together, and ancestor tables. uFTi 1.2 is available free. The upgrade is from http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/oughtibridge/ugufti.htm The full download has been sent to Penn State University and will be available there in due course. It is available from the main uFTi homepage at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/oughtibridge Nicholas Oughtibridge From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Thu Dec 19 03:17:55 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox2.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.54]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA05011 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:17:55 -0800 Received: from mh004.infi.net (mh004.infi.net [198.22.1.119]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA21884 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from weather1 by mh004.infi.net with ESMTP (Infinet-S-3.3) id WAA04825; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:10:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612190310.WAA04825@mh004.infi.net> From: "Teresa M. Rozich" To: , "Terry Lofthouse" , "Tex or Linda Dick" , Cc: "genweb genweb" , "GaLINA Mailing List" , Subject: Email address change Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:12:13 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all. In preparation for alot of "trips" I may be taking with work, I have set up a "Mobile" email address. Please change my email address to the following: wthr1@Bitsmart.com I am the host to the Warren Co NC USGenWeb, Butts Co GA USGenweb, Kimball Mailing list, Dorsey Mailing list, Kimball Web page, and Roberts Web page. I'm doing this so I don't have to worry about missing important email while gone (My next trip begins on 6 January and is for 30 days). For those of you on GenWeb list, and GaLina list, I don't know how to unsub using wthr1@foto.infi.net, and to resubscribe using wthr1@BitSmart.com so if anyone can help me there,,, **************************************************************************** ********* Teresa Maro Rozich Kimball Genealogy Online http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2926 Warren Co NC GenWeb http://www.lofthouse.com/warren Butts Co GA GenWeb http://www.lofthouse.com/USA/ga/butts **************************************************************************** ********* From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Thu Dec 19 18:38:08 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA05402 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:38:07 -0800 Received: from mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (ns.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.1]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA17209 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from terry ([207.146.222.48]) by mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA8140; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:15:51 +0000 Message-ID: <32B93FF8.759@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:15:36 +0000 From: Terry Sterkel Reply-To: tsterkel@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GenWeb Subject: Re: GenWeb vs US GenWeb References: <32B937C6.4401@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry Sterkel wrote: > > I am lost, please do not refer me to a web site, > I have read all that pop up on altavista and hotbot, > and I am even more confused. Here are my questions. > > 1. The US GenWeb project appears to be the GENWEB project, > with a state-oriented infrastructure to assist researches. > Is this true? > 2. If not true, where would I submit my GENWEBS? > 3. I live in NJ, but my "genealogical roots" are in northern > Colorado, and south nebraska. Do I submit my GENWEB to > the state sites? > 4. Is there a difference between GED2HTML and US GENWEB submittal > requirements. > 5. If it is different, please provide explicit line by line > 6. If I put my genweb on a cheaper site than the state's server, > will that invalidate my genweb. > 7. I keep on hearing about "free" genweb storage sites, could you > provide pointers. and how to register this genweb with the > appropriate US GENWEB. > > best wishes, > terry > > -- > t.e.sterkel Road [Warrior|Mendicant] > tsterkel@[lucent.com|worldnet.att.net] -- t.e.sterkel Road [Warrior|Mendicant] tsterkel@[lucent.com|worldnet.att.net] From list-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Dec 29 17:34:36 1996 Return-Path: list-relay@UCSD.EDU Received: from UCSD.EDU (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by fuji.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA09876 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:34:35 -0800 Received: from comfo.ca (net-gate.comfo.ca [206.75.245.1]) by UCSD.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA21149 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 09:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from slip6.comfo.ca (slip6.comfo.ca [206.75.245.134]) by comfo.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13479 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:08:46 -0700 Message-ID: <32C6B1DB.76BA@comfo.ca> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:00:59 -0800 From: Kelly Mitchell X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: new england page X-URL: http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail_general.html#GENMSC-L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Season Greetings All Two Friends and I have started a New England and we are welcoming suggestions, ideas. etc for our page. Page is Located at: http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kellymitchell/index.html Thank you for Your time; Kelly Mitchell Calgary AB Canada Names: Mitchell/Buchanan/Danbrooks/Melrose..Catlin/Baldwin..Miller/Rau..Holizki/Tress Email: Ketchup@comfo.ca Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/1672/index.html New England Page: http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kellymitchell/index.html Quick Guide to my Surnames: http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/a/t/catchup1.html