*************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* *************************************************************************** Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 23:26:04 -0500 From: Ed Ragosta Reply-To: edphoto@ici.net Organization: Ragosta Photography X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: FAMILY SEARCH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: R I am interseted in locating information on the following families Ragosta Venticique Pivarunas Baronowski These families originated in Italy and Poland respectively around the late 1800s. I amseeking exsisting members in these countries as well as the U.S.A. I am also interested in the family histories Any help or discussion will be appreciated Thank You ED Ragosta email edphoto@ici.net From: "Teresa M. Rozich" To: genweb Subject: Butts County Ga Now alive and kicking! Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:40:00 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: R Hello All! I proudly announce the grand opening of Butts County GenWeb. And while I'm here, I need your help! Anyone having information on the origins of Butts County, it's history, or any other information for Butts County GenWeb, please, let me know! I have a few queries already, but not much else to add to it. Anyone with Butts County information, please share. I would like to make this one of the best pages in GenWeb! http://www.lofthouse.com/USA/ga.butts **************************************************************************** Teresa Maro Rozich Kimball Genealogy Online http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2926 Warren Co NC GenWeb http://www.lofthouse.com/warren Butts Co GA GenWeb http://www.lofthouse.com/USA/ga/butts **************************************************************************** Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 21:48:53 +0200 From: Anders Andersson Message-Id: <9610171948.AA14746@Mizar.DoCS.UU.SE> To: genweb@ucsd.edu, swedes@smultron.com Subject: Swedish church records on-line Status: R [GenWeb project groups: Engineering, Information Quality] There seems to be plans to provide a database of Swedish church records as scanned images over the World-Wide Web, beginning some time next year. More information (so far only in Swedish) at . Some sample images (from Rattvik parish) can be found in TIF Fax Gr 4 format under (these images are large, typically 3000 x 2000 pixels, in b/w). Does anyone know of an OCR program capable of dealing with 18th-century handwriting? :-) -- Anders Andersson, Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University Paper Mail: Box 325, S-751 05 UPPSALA, Sweden Phone: +46 18 183170 EMail: andersa@DoCS.UU.SE Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:42:32 -0400 From: "Dr. Weisman" Organization: Weisman Associates X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: B.C.Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk Subject: GEDCOM files X-URL: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/gedcom.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: R 10-14-96 Hello Sir, My name is Dr.Weisman, I have spent many long hours on your fine sites. I thank you very much for your work, it has helped my research tremendously. You say that these files are converted from gedcom files. Are the unconverted ROYAL GEDCOM files available for download also? Your site has literally saved me hundreds of hours of work, and I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am. If you know of any other sites where I can download GEDCOMS (if yours are not available) I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Dr. Rhett Weisman Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:59:14 +0000 ( ) From: "Arthur H. Johnson" To: swedes@smultron.com cc: genweb@ucsd.edu, swedes@smultron.com Subject: Re: Swedish church records on-line In-Reply-To: <9610171948.AA14746@Mizar.DoCS.UU.SE> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Anders Andersson wrote: > [GenWeb project groups: Engineering, Information Quality] > > There seems to be plans to provide a database of Swedish church > records as scanned images over the World-Wide Web, beginning > some time next year. More information (so far only in Swedish) > at . Some sample images > (from Rattvik parish) can be found in TIF Fax Gr 4 format under > (these > images are large, typically 3000 x 2000 pixels, in b/w). This seems to be a much better idea than the attempts I have seen to put everything into a database. It seems like it would be much less labor-intensive and would also preserve the flavor of the original record. I had thought about the possibility of using Adobe Acrobat for such a project. You would end up with much larger file sizes than with a database, but with storage costs having plummeted recently, the labor/storage tradeoff would seem to greatly favor storage. > Does anyone know of an OCR program capable of dealing with > 18th-century handwriting? :-) I'm glad to see the smiley after this question. :-} Art Johnson iii@atlantic.net Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:36:41 -0600 From: smcgee@sol.slcc.edu (Scott McGee \(Personal\)) Message-Id: <9610181836.AA12319@sol.slcc.edu.> To: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: New GenWeb server Status: R Hi all, I have been running my GenWeb server on Genealogy Online for some time now, and it appears to be quite popular, averaging over 2000 accesses a day among the 24 database there. Unfortunately, due to the amount of disk space I was using there for it, I have been unable for some time to offer to host new databases. I have now set up a new GenWeb server here, and am now able to offer to host new database from it. Currently, I have my own McGee database and Lori Steadman's Mayflo9 database here. I have copied the Mayflo9 database to Genealogy Online in place of the older Mayflo8, but will keep it here too. If you want to see my GenWeb server on Genealogy Online, go to the page at: http://www.genealogy.org/~smcgee/genweb/ If you want to see the new server, us the URL: http://www.slcc.edu/~genweb/ and if you want to have a database served here, or are interested in running this sever on your own unix account (you must have LifeLines, so it must be a unix account - you also must be able to install a cgi script) then email me ato genweb@sol.slcc.edu Scott GENEALOGY | Do you know who your ancestors are? | Scott McGee ------------+------------------------------------------+------------------- email: smcgee@genealogy.org | What? Me speak for web: http://www.genealogy.org/~smcgee/homepage.html | someone else? Nah! -------------------------------------------------------+------------------- See my genealogy page at http://www.genealogy.org/~smcgee and my GenWeb page at http://www.genealogy.org/~smcgee/genweb To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: svpafug@rahul.net (Bill Minnick) Subject: Montgomery Genealogy - New GenWeb Publication Cc: "George E. Montgomery" <70404.745@compuserve.com>, davidlm@glen-net.ca Status: R To All GenWeb Followers: We've just completed a project to publish (on the Web) The Descendants of John Montgomery and Susannah Lillie, of Roxborough Twp, Ontario, Canada (1808). The Montgomery database consists of over 8,000 persons, over 4,000 marriages. The URL is: http://www.rahul.net/svpafug/welcome.htm "We" are a joint project which has included: 1. George L. Montgomery, who used the PAF program to enter the genealogy research prepared by Dr. David L. Montgomery; 2. Bill Minnick, Silicon Valley PAF Users Group Webmaster; 3. Tim Doyle, developer of the IGM Web Genealogy Publishing Software. You are invited to look over this genealogy database, and if you have Web pages of related individuals, please add your LINKS to our Montgomery pages which will link our Montgomery families to other related Web pages. Enjoy! The Montgomery Web Pubs Team From: "W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)" Subject: Re: World USGENWEB project To: beaur@cam.org Date: Thu, 24 Oct 96 9:42:24 EST Cc: genweb@ucsd.edu In-Reply-To: <199610240450.AAA27811@Nimbus.CAM.ORG>; from "Denis Beauregard" at Oct 24, 96 12:50 (midnight) Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: R :> I just visited the "worldwide" version of usgenweb and :> was quite embarrassing when I found ........ :> :> must be more than a mere "adoption". The co-ordinator :> should at least participate to the network of genealogists :> on the Internet about that country ......... I would suggest that, if it's really that bad, that the USGenWeb folks consider expanding their scope, and prepare a "charter" to publish saying how they will ensure that quality is maintained for all sites. Obviously, a single coordinator cannot handle the whole thing, but perhaps a benign oligarchy could have some way of setting standards (with net.feedback) and refuse to put links to sites that don't meet those standards. People who are working certain countries already could either continue unchanged, or offer their URLs to this committee for inclusion. I say benign oligarchy because a U.S.-style election process does not work well on the net. A better approach is for one person with genuine interest to contact others he/she suspects would promote the "cause" well, and have the contactees prepare and publish a preliminary charter. The netizens then vote by their actions: they either support or ignore the committee. If they choose ignore, one of them could also choose to form an alternate committee. Though it may take a while and possibly do some harm on the way, in the long run a group that is helping enough people will survive and one that isn't will fade away. And the groups that survive will eventually undo any damage done by the others. Now that the Web is becoming truly "World-Wide" it's a sure thing that "kooks" in the genealogy realm will appear (after all, there have always been trash published on paper). But genealogists in general have managed to establish various self-policing inter-cooperating organizations, some very informal, and most with no 'legal' way to impose their will on anyone. Yet it succeeds. Other hobbies have had similar successes. There's no reason why it can't happen on the Net. Whether you are right or wrong, Denis, I commend you for NOT reprinting the URL of a service you felt harmful. Don't want to give free publicity. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) Office: 219-429-4923 Hughes Defense Communications (MS 10-40) Home: 219-471-7206 Fort Wayne, IN 46808 (Unix): wwgrol@pseserv3.fw.hac.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:17:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Denis Beauregard To: Pam Groleau Leonard cc: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Re: World USGENWEB project In-Reply-To: <326FA7D6.61C3@potvin.agn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Pam Groleau Leonard wrote: > I could only find the Hungary and Sweden pages. Could someone post the > address for the France pages? Then we can take a look. The complete list is at: http://www.dsenter.com/worldgenweb/index.html In my opinion, pages about Germany, France and Norway will get the more negative feedback because there is someone interessed enough so that there are newsgroups for them. Moreover, there is a s.g.nordic and .slavic so that it would be more usefull and less frustrating to at least ask thru those newsgroups for a coordinator for places they cover. They have 1500 coordinators in USA for the mere reason it was firstly usgenweb. But if you check in many world sites like these: http://pmgmac.micro.umn.edu/genealogy.html or http://www.genhomepage.com/world.html you will see a lot of places are already covered out of that world usgenweb project. ### Denis Beauregard, genealogiste amateur, Internet: beaur@cam.org ### Page web de genealogie: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/index.html ### Genealogy Web page: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/welcome.html ### Sujets: Quebec, France, Acadie, experts francophones, etc. To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: ghoffman@UCSD.EDU (Gary Hoffman) Organization: IR/PS UC San Diego, La Jolla CA 92093-0519 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 18:42:56 PDT Subject: I'm back but www.genweb.org is down Status: R To GenWebbers: I am back from a wonderful vacation in New England where the leaves turned brilliant colors for me. (Fall in Southern California is just dry shrubs and wildfires, not the kind of colors to sooth the soul.) I went to a family reunion and genealogy experience in Maysville, Kentucky on the way, then checked out ancestral sites in Massachusetts. I left just before the big rainstorms hit the region last weekend. When I got back to work, I decided to upgrade www.genweb.org (otherwise known as fuji.ucsd.edu), which is a 486 running BSDI Unix v. 2.0. So I hired a unix guru who managed to crash the machine mondo bad. It has taken several days to get a kernel up and running that works on this hardware. It still is not fully functional and probably won't be until about Tuesday, when he can come back to fix it. This means that the GenWeb demo pages and the archive for the GenWebList is not available. But I have it backed up, so we will get it online soon. In the meantime, when it comes up, we will have a demonstration of a pedigree chart based on Apple Computing's Meta-Content Format. Stay tuned. It will knock your socks off! Cheers from San Diego. Gary *************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* *************************************************************************** Subject: Re: I'm back but www.genweb.org is down To: Gary Hoffman Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:34:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Laurie Cc: genweb@ucsd.edu In-Reply-To: <1996Oct27.184256.1530097@irpsbbs.ucsd.edu> from "Gary Hoffman" at Oct 27, 96 06:42:56 pm Reply-To: ben@algroup.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9610280534.aa12370@gonzo.ben.algroup.co.uk> Status: R Gary Hoffman wrote: > This means that the GenWeb demo pages and the archive for the GenWebList is > not available. But I have it backed up, so we will get it online soon. In > the meantime, when it comes up, we will have a demonstration of a pedigree > chart based on Apple Computing's Meta-Content Format. Stay tuned. It will > knock your socks off! Hmmm ... hope you have more luck with Apple's MCF browser than I did. My socks are still firmly on ;-) Cheers, Ben. -- Ben Laurie Phone: +44 (181) 994 6435 Freelance Consultant and Fax: +44 (181) 994 6472 Technical Director Email: ben@algroup.co.uk A.L. Digital Ltd, URL: http://www.algroup.co.uk London, England. Apache Group member (http://www.apache.org) >From hagen@ziplink.net Sun Oct 27 16:20:52 1996 X-Sender: hagen@pop3.ziplink.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:18:55 -0500 To: smcgee@sol.slcc.edu (Scott McGee (Personal)) From: hagen@ziplink.net (Rick Hagen) Subject: Re: new address >Rick, > >Good to hear from you. Glad also to hear that having your >databases online has been helpful. We are currently >averaging about 2500 accesses a day on the GenWeb >databases. This is pretty incredible to me! > > >Scott > Scott, When you get a chance please change my email address for the Hagen and Miller databases on your "Other GenWeb Databases" web page. Thanks, Rick Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:51:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199610292251.RAA02008@Nimbus.CAM.ORG> X-Sender: beaur@pop.hip.cam.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: genweb@UCSD.EDU, genmsc-l@mail.eworld.com, gencmp-l@mail.eworld.com From: beaur@CAM.ORG (Denis Beauregard) Subject: WorldGenWeb Project : new entries Status: R There are new entries in the Worldgenweb page. I decided to coordinate the main page for Canada, which is roughly a series of pointers to provincial projects. Canada is a federal state where vital records are organized by province and my own duty will be: - in the Canadian page, to enter new pointers for province projects, after validating people are already in touch which that area, and to look for more volunteers at the provincial level (mostly by writting to webmasters having main pages and receiving suggestions after this post). I will also put pointers to existing projects (when I know them) for province-wide projects (like OCFA and BCCFA for cemeteries). There is already a volunteer for BC. - in the Quebec page, I will coordinate effort for the overall area and a central index for marriages. Someone else is starting a project for a cemetery tombstone index. I would suggest those out of USA to start thinking to adapt the concept of usgenweb to their own area. While the whole project would consist in having all material on the web, if there is already a project for putting an index of birth or marriages, for example, it could be the first step for your national project. Page of worldgenweb: http://www.dsenter.com/worldgenweb/index.html Canada: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/cdgenweb.html Quebec: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/qcgenweb.html Denis ### Denis Beauregard, genealogiste amateur, Internet: beaur@cam.org ### Page web de genealogie: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/index.html ### Genealogy Web page: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/welcome.html ### Sujets: Quebec, France, Acadie, experts francophones, etc. Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:49:11 -0800 From: Linda Russell Lewis Organization: Coordinator, USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/usfiles.htm X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Denis Beauregard CC: genweb@UCSD.EDU, genmsc-l@mail.eworld.com, gencmp-l@mail.eworld.com Subject: Re: WorldGenWeb Project : new entries References: <199610292251.RAA02008@Nimbus.CAM.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: R Denis Beauregard wrote: <> The USGenWeb includes the Archives, where we are storing transcribed primary source documents. The Rootsweb site has now expanded to include files for the WorldGenWeb. The URL for the USGenWeb Archives table of contents is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/usfiles.htm The files there are not gedcoms, and not indexes. They are complete records, such as marriages for 1830-1850 for xxxxxx County. (That's just an example.) As the coordinator of both projects, I have only received one census file for England, which has been uploaded. ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/wggenweb Thanks, Linda Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 12:11:55 -0600 From: ANITA VANOTEGHEN Organization: VANOTEGHEN ENTERPRISES X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: genweb@ucsd.edu Subject: (no subject) X-Url: http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail_general.html#GEN-IRC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: R Content-Length: 43 would like to know more about this. Anita From: "W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)" Subject: (Fwd) Question To: genweb@ucsd.edu Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 8:48:05 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: R I received a message from myland@sorel-tracy.qc.ca (Mylen Daneau) In case I misunderstood, perhaps someone who does understand would like to answer Mylen/Marco/whoever. :> :> Bonsoir, :> :> Je voudrais savoir si c'est possible de former notre arbre= :> :> g=E9n=E9alogique :> :> =E0 partir de netscape. :> :> Merci, Marco Gagnon. :> :> Hello, :> My French is not very good. This is my translation: :> "I would like to know if it is possible to share our family :> tree with Netscape." :> :> Did I understand right? Do you mean you would like to download a whole :> tree or just make links from one to the other? :> :> My "tree" is currently reachable via :> :> http://www.genealogy.org/~smcgee/genweb/other_db.html#groleau :> :> There are ways you can write a link to connect directly to a particular :> person or sub-tree in my data. If that's what you would like to do, :> I can put together the instructions. But although I can sometimes read :> French, I am not able to write it. Sorry. :> :> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- :> W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) Office: 219-429-4923 :> Hughes Defense Communications (MS 10-40) Home: 219-471-7206 :> Fort Wayne, IN 46808 (Unix): wwgrol@pseserv3.fw.hac.com :> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:18:05 -0500 (EST) From: Denis Beauregard To: "W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)" cc: genweb@UCSD.EDU Subject: Re: (Fwd) Question In-Reply-To: <9611041349.AA05592@most> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R I replied to that person. In short: someone asking if you can build your tree from what is available in the web. I replied (roughly): this would mean to put and link millions of marriages data on the web... Denis On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) wrote: > I received a message from myland@sorel-tracy.qc.ca (Mylen Daneau) > In case I misunderstood, perhaps someone who does understand would like to > answer Mylen/Marco/whoever. > > :> :> Bonsoir, > :> :> Je voudrais savoir si c'est possible de former notre arbre= > :> :> g=E9n=E9alogique ### Denis Beauregard, genealogiste amateur, Internet: beaur@cam.org ### Page web de genealogie: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/index.html ### Genealogy Web page: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/welcome.html ### Sujets: Quebec, France, Acadie, experts francophones, etc. To: genweb@ucsd.edu From: ghoffman@UCSD.EDU (Gary Hoffman) Organization: IR/PS UC San Diego, La Jolla CA 92093-0519 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 20:18:31 PDT Subject: Missing GenWebList Messages Status: R To GenWebbers: Last week, I called in a consultant to help me upgrade my unix server, fuji.ucsd.edu, that also hosts the GenWeb proposal and the archives for the GenWebList. The upgrade, from BSDI 2.0 to 2.1 was a bust, so he built a new Linux OS from scratch. In the process, I lost some files I had not backed up, including the "current" archives of genweb messages. These would be messages sent to this mailing from September 1, 1996 until October 31. I do have some of them in another mail system, but I need to reconstitute the entire archive. If anyone has been keeping copies in a Eudora mailbox, for example, please e-mail me directly and let me know what format they are in. Please do not reply to the list and please do not send me the messages until I get back to you. It is fortunate that the traffic in this list has been light the past two months, at least compared to previous periods. It was so light in September, in fact, that I didn't even harvest that month's mail file into the Web archives. But, ooops, now I've lost them and I would like them back, at least for continuity's sake. Thanks in advance, Gary *************************************************************************** *Gary B. Hoffman, Computing Services Manager e-mail: ghoffman@ucsd.edu* *Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies (IR/PS)* *University of California, San Diego (UCSD) voice: (619) 534-1989* *9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla, CA 92093-0519 USA fax: (619) 534-3939* ***************************************************************************